Saturday, April 9, 2011

Appalling security and customer service on eBay going around in circles.

Unhappy with my new iPhone 4 I want to go back to my HTC Desire. Only problem is I am now on a micro SIM so need a converter to go back to a standard SIM. No problem I will just jump on eBay and get one.

Lets sign in.. (User Account ID has been changed for privacy reasons)



And I use a Verisign token, two factor authentication for added security. (I press the button and enter the code)


Maybe I typed it in wrong?


Definitely got it right this time I triple checked.


Ok what now? I have not lost it and it is not damaged. Lets try "I forgot my security Key"


Bit strange but ok fair enough it wants me to login.

I just told you I do not have my security token!!!!! 



You were supposed to call me at the phone number on file for my account!



I then search the website to try and find a way to contact eBay (This is no easy task)

I then decide to give Live Help a go (BIG Mistake)


This just fills me with confidence.




Live Help was... well... less then helpful.... 
They even asked me to click a link!!! I was appalled!
Below is the transcript:

Session ID: 4328035  
13:29:47 JohnPayneEbayAcc
Initial Question/Comment: AU Activation
13:29:53 System
Thank you for contacting eBay Australia Live Help! Please hold for the next available Live Help representative.
13:29:53 System
Navi P. has joined this session!
13:29:53 System
Connected with Navi P.
13:30:02 Navi P.
Thank you for waiting and welcome to eBay Live Help. My name is Navi. May I have your full name and User ID please?
13:30:23 JohnPayneEbayAcc
FN: John Payne
13:30:29 JohnPayneEbayAcc
UID: JohnPayneEbayAcc
13:30:43 Navi P.
Hi John, how are you and how may I help you?
13:30:52 JohnPayneEbayAcc
Hi I am unable to login
13:31:19 JohnPayneEbayAcc
I have NOT lost my security dongle
13:31:36 JohnPayneEbayAcc
when I enter the 6 digit key it says its is wrong
13:32:13 Navi P.
May I ask, do you know your user ID and password?
13:32:34 JohnPayneEbayAcc
I do
13:33:20 Navi P.
If I got you right, you can't access in your MY eBay account, is that correct?
13:33:32 JohnPayneEbayAcc
correct
13:33:53 Navi P.
Before we proceed, is there anything else that I can help you with?
13:34:01 JohnPayneEbayAcc
I can not login I get stuck on the verisign security token page
13:34:13 JohnPayneEbayAcc
no just this problem
13:34:23 Navi P.
Okay John.
13:35:28 Navi P.
When your done providing your User ID and password what does it say?
13:35:51 JohnPayneEbayAcc
Press the button on your security key and enter your six digit code below.

Enter your six-digit security code
13:36:54 JohnPayneEbayAcc
and then I enter the 6 digit code
13:37:03 JohnPayneEbayAcc
then I get "Your security code is incorrect. Please try again."
13:37:58 Navi P.
How may times did you try entering the security code?
13:38:12 JohnPayneEbayAcc
3 or 4 now
13:39:38 Navi P.
I see.
13:40:58 JohnPayneEbayAcc
so what now?
13:41:03 Navi P.
Security code will only pop out if you entered a wrong User ID or password.
13:41:20 JohnPayneEbayAcc
no
13:42:02 JohnPayneEbayAcc
If I enter wrong user ID or password I get "Your user ID or password is incorrect."
13:42:05 Navi P.
When you log in to your account does it have an error?
13:42:30 JohnPayneEbayAcc
if I enret the correct user ID and correct password then I get the Security Code prompt
13:42:49 JohnPayneEbayAcc
Navi P.
When you log in to your account does it have an error? = I can not log in
13:43:43 Navi P.
May I ask, can you try logging in again and let me know if it has an error.
13:45:06 JohnPayneEbayAcc
Ok I will try again
13:45:15 JohnPayneEbayAcc
same problem "Your security code is incorrect. Please try again."
13:46:03 Navi P.
I will push you the link and try logging in again.
13:46:25 JohnPayneEbayAcc
ok
13:46:28 Navi P.
Okay?
13:46:33 Navi P.
13:48:02 JohnPayneEbayAcc
same error
13:48:06 JohnPayneEbayAcc
nothing changed
13:48:21 JohnPayneEbayAcc
"Your security code is incorrect. Please try again."
13:49:08 Navi P.
Can you please copy paste the error message here so I can check out the error code.
13:49:31 JohnPayneEbayAcc
I just did
13:49:35 JohnPayneEbayAcc
"Your security code is incorrect. Please try again."
13:51:33 Navi P.
For security purposes, may I ask for your phone number and physical address please?
13:53:50 JohnPayneEbayAcc
I do not know how secure I feel giving you that information, whats next my password?
13:54:43 Navi P.
But I need to verify you in order to check your account.
13:55:25 JohnPayneEbayAcc
I think my Verisign token has become out of sync is there any instruction on how to resync it?
13:56:20 JohnPayneEbayAcc
I have tried clicking on the " I forgot my security key"
13:57:00 JohnPayneEbayAcc
can you call me on the phone number on record?
13:57:27 Navi P.
I'm so sorry but we don't have any phone support as of the moment.
13:57:48 Navi P.
Let me verify you so we can sort things together.
13:58:08 JohnPayneEbayAcc
but it says "eBay customer support will call you at the phone number on file for your account. You'll receive a personal identification number (PIN) to access your temporary six-digit security code."
13:58:09 Navi P.
I just need your phone number and physical address for security purposes.
13:58:36 JohnPayneEbayAcc
13:58:57 JohnPayneEbayAcc
why is this not working?
13:59:17 JohnPayneEbayAcc
it clearly says I will get a phone call on the number on file
13:59:28 Navi P.
May I ask, what browser are you using?
13:59:53 JohnPayneEbayAcc
IE
13:59:58 JohnPayneEbayAcc
i think
14:00:18 Navi P.
Can you try using Mozilla Firefox.
14:02:02 JohnPayneEbayAcc
yes
14:02:09 JohnPayneEbayAcc
now I get "error
You have encountered an internal error. Please try again later."
14:03:18 Navi P.
Can you just let me verify so I can help you how to sort things out.
14:03:33 Navi P.
Don't worry I'm here to help you.
14:03:53 Navi P.
My job is to help valued customers just like you.
14:03:58 JohnPayneEbayAcc
I am very concerned
14:04:09 JohnPayneEbayAcc
on the website it says
14:04:27 JohnPayneEbayAcc
on the official website it says "eBay customer support will call you at the phone number on file for your account. You'll receive a personal identification number (PIN) to access your temporary six-digit security code."
14:04:44 JohnPayneEbayAcc
something is not righ here
14:04:46 Navi P.
I understand that but in order to proceed I need to have your phone number and physical address so I can verify it.
14:05:07 JohnPayneEbayAcc
why is someone not calling me?
14:05:25 JohnPayneEbayAcc
with the number that is on file
14:05:38 Navi P.
I know and I'm willing to help you with that but I would need your phone number and physical address first before proceeding.
14:06:19 JohnPayneEbayAcc
I am appalled at ebay security first you send me a link to click on (very bad practice)
14:06:28 JohnPayneEbayAcc
and then ask for personal information
14:07:18 Navi P.
Did you try contacting that number?
14:07:29 JohnPayneEbayAcc
what number?
14:08:38 Navi P.
I really want to help you but in order for us to proceed I will need your phone number and physical address.
14:09:59 JohnPayneEbayAcc
call me your website say "eBay customer support will call you at the phone number on file for your account. You'll receive a personal identification number (PIN) to access your temporary six-digit security code."
14:10:07 JohnPayneEbayAcc
why does it say that if it is not true?
14:10:27 JohnPayneEbayAcc
read it for yuourself
14:10:34 JohnPayneEbayAcc
14:10:47 Navi P.
That means you just have to wait for there call so that they can help you.
14:11:01 JohnPayneEbayAcc
that is fine I can wait
14:11:13 Navi P.
I understand that.
14:11:28 Navi P.
Okay.
14:12:08 Navi P.
So you wont allow me to verify so you will get this done now?
14:12:33 Navi P.
I understand that you prefer to wait for there call.
14:13:02 JohnPayneEbayAcc
I want soeone to call me or sms me on the number "ebay" has on file
14:13:17 Navi P.
I understand that.
14:13:21 JohnPayneEbayAcc
or send me a letter to my residential address that "ebay" has on file
14:13:41 Navi P.
Just wait for there call and I will inform them about that.
14:14:11 JohnPayneEbayAcc
for me to provide personal information is appalling security practice
14:14:39 JohnPayneEbayAcc
very unhappy
14:15:23 Navi P.
I understand that and I'm really sorry I'm just doing my job as a representative to help a valued customer.
14:15:56 JohnPayneEbayAcc
you have my ebay ID and my name
14:15:57 Navi P.
And we would need your security purposes to verify it since your having problems with your account.
14:16:34 Navi P.
Yes I do but we will need your phone number and physical address since you are having problems logging in your account.
14:19:11 JohnPayneEbayAcc
this is no help I will try twitter
14:20:03 Navi P.
I know because there's something wrong in your account and in order for me to help you I would need to verify you.
14:21:58 JohnPayneEbayAcc
I have already verified account bank etc and confirmed mobile phone via sms it is all on record
14:22:18 JohnPayneEbayAcc
now I need you to verify yourself by contacting me with the details on record
14:23:24 Navi P.
I understand that but I really need your phone number and physical address. You can trust me.
14:23:58 Navi P.
I' am not here to disappoint you but I'm here to help you.
14:26:05 JohnPayneEbayAcc
you have been less then helpfull.
14:27:57 Navi P.
I can assure you the security of your personal information.
14:28:17 Navi P.
I'm just verifying you just to make sure that I'm speaking with the correct account holder.
14:28:33 Navi P.
This is to ensure the security of your account.
14:28:40 JohnPayneEbayAcc
you are asking my to compromise my security
14:29:37 Navi P.
I understand that you don't really want to give out your information.
14:30:02 Navi P.
You can go to your PayPal activation page.
14:30:08 JohnPayneEbayAcc
you can verify by contacting JohnPayneEbayAcc with the details on file. <-- this way you prove to me you are from ebay and at the same time verify my identity
14:30:43 JohnPayneEbayAcc
the fact that you will not do thsi is very suspiscious
14:31:13 JohnPayneEbayAcc
feels like a scam trying to steal my details
14:32:07 Navi P.
I' am here to help you and not to mess your account.
14:34:48 JohnPayneEbayAcc
this is going nowhere. I will seek other channels to get help.
14:35:05 JohnPayneEbayAcc
goodbye
14:35:47 Navi P.
I understand that. I'm just helping you how to sort out things.


I decided to send @eBay a message on twitter.. I am not expecting much.

"@ I can not login. eBay live chat is 0 help.is not working as stated."

to be continued.................


1 comment:

  1. Could you resolve it? How? now is even worse since ebay does not have any other form to contact support than calling the states and having you waiting on the phone at least 10minutes waiting, =( =(

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